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Addam Ledamyen's avatar

As another transmasc non-binary person, I 100% agree with you and have been feeling exactly the same way for quite a while now. I’ve encountered a couple examples of bathrooms or dressing rooms being altered toward “inclusivity” by slapping a GENDER NEUTRAL sign over what really says WOMEN but leaving the MEN sign exactly as it is. Like you said, first instinct is to appreciate it, but then you realize that it’s kinda bullshit. If there’s two spaces and one of them is Male then the other one is inherently female regardless of what you call it and it feels very invalidating as a non-binary person to be offered what is obviously just the thinly veiled female space. It’s a whole complicated situation, but you’re right to bring it up, so thank you.

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Jude Jones (they/them)'s avatar

It’s definitely not just you. When I saw the title, I was skeptical, but when I saw the subtitle, I wanted to scream yes, yes, YES!!! I can’t stand “women + non-binary”, even and especially because I am the exact kind of non-binary person they want: a white and woman-adjacent one. But I know I won’t find many other non-binary people there, and definitely not a diverse group of non-binary people, and we are SO DIVERSE, so why would I want to be part of something that excludes most of us? I think these women+ clubs should be renamed to “no penises or people who look like they could have a penis” because that’s really what they’re trying to get at. Just be honest, just come out and say it. Don’t pretend you actually want non-binary people there when you would freak out if a male-presenting AMAB enby showed up. It makes me so angry! I have ranted about this before, but I’m not sure where. Now I can point to your piece. Thank you.

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